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MartiW |
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Actuallly the credibility of the Church is on the rise. The claims are on the decrease and the payoffs are doubling and tripling. To extend the statute of
limitations is not justice nor does it serve any purpose than to line the pockets of lawyers. Of course if you truly do not think that Catholics are aware of
what has gone on, then I guess we need to find some Catholics who have no access to the news.
DEUS meus, ex toto corde amo Te super omnia, quia es infinite bonus et infinite amabilis; et ob amorem Tui proximum meum
diligo sicut meipsum, eique, si quid in me offendit, ignosco.
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Burke |
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Hi Paul,
> Whatever it takes to do justice to the victims of clergy abuse and the hirearchial misconduct that fostered it. Well, I guess I must respect your position since you are prepared to give your own money to help the Church sort this out. I am impressed. Peace, |
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Paul |
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Actuallly the credibility of the Church is on the rise.
With the exception of the large increase in Hispanic immigrants, legal and otherwise, the church in this country, USA, is shrinking. I don't see any signs of an increase in credibility re: Catholic hirearchy from the people in the US. Perhaps you do. There are signs of hope. The increasing diversity of the church here may be a catylist If the latest Gallup Poll is a reliable indicator of what American Catholics believe today, then our Bishops have truely lost their moral authority over the laity especially when it comes to sexual sins. On the other hand, the right-wing, rank and file minority and most vocal in the Church today would disagree with me. These self-appointed defenders of orthodoxy are saying that the results of the latest Gallup poll is really about poor catechesis and homiletics. While I hate to admit that I must agree with them on poor preaching - most Sunday homilies are dull and uninspiring - I don't think you can blame everything on bad preaching or education. One of the many tragedies of the clerical sex abuse scandal is that in the eyes of laity, the Catholic hierarchy have lost all credibility and are in no position to dictate to them about their moral obligations on Catholic life issues or social ethics. The latest Gallup poll results did not come as a shock to me. Fr. Andrew Greeley (God make him well again), who has studied the behavior and beliefs of American Catholics for decades, has warned bishops for years that the laity will not accept Catholic teaching just by being ordered. Rather, they must be persuaded. Here is snip from a Father Greeley article, "On Respecting the Freedom of the Laity" from his website.
I found it ironic that the L.A. Times recently wrote an article, "Aging of Catholic Bishops could lead to rebirth". a few weeks after the results of the latest Gallup Poll on American Catholics was released. Here is a snip from the article:
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wondrousgnat.christiansvsnon... |
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The treatment in the news, courts and financial udgements should be no diferent than it is for Protestant churches, schools, police departments, politicians
and members of the news media.
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Mike in Pittsburgh |
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The treatment in the news, courts and financial judgements should be no diferent than it is for Protestant churches, schools, police departments, politicians and members of the news media.Should be, indeed, but let's face the reality. The Catholic Church is an easy target because it is the last large institution that stands contrary to the overall tide of immoral secularism. (Certainly many evangelical Protestants also but they do so as individual congregations, not as a unity.) As we claim to be something different, they are just waiting for us to fall short of our ideals so that they can try to demolish the ideals altogether. Peace, Bro. Mike |
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