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Jun 15 17 1:36 AM
Jun 15 17 3:18 AM
I WalkWithGod wrote:However this is merely an emphasis in "book authority" and where the issue stems from. The Catholic Church doesnt share this issue with muslims or others not in communion with the Church. And in which case the Church has quite a different view and in relation to women and killing and OT interpretation in relationship to salvation and various aspects further defined throughout time. In this sense the Church shares no literal interpretation in killing in Gods name according to his will. Which is literal understanding and the issues with well muslims and those not in communion with the church as is with the thinking on women.
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Jun 15 17 5:15 PM
IWalkwithGod wrote:Jesus did not ordain any women. He selected all of his apostles, and none were women and the tradition has remained intact since the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women.
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Jun 15 17 5:45 PM
ScottDStuart wrote:That is ridiculous reasoning.
It is perfectly reasonable to follow the actions of the founder of ones religion. Saying "ridiculous" really isn't an argument.
Jun 15 17 5:56 PM
Jun 15 17 6:29 PM
ScottDStuart wrote:The Apostles in that room were being commissioned to carry out the task that Jesus was performing right in front of them. They were instructed to feed the entire congregation. This includes women.
Jun 15 17 6:52 PM
Oh Gary, you know I love it when you get scriptural.
Despite the fact that the argument you are attempting to make is whimsical and leads nowhere, and leaving aside the fact that including women in communion is a logical necessity, let do it:
John 21:15 After breakfast Jesus asked Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?" "Yes, Lord," Peter replied, "you know I love you." "Then feed my lambs," Jesus told him.
The logical necessity I spoke of is this:
John 6:51 "I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world."a
52The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?" 53Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
Unless you now wish to argue that women can't have eternal life if they can't be priests,
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You are simply refusing to acknowledge that Jesus only commissioned men but included women in the congregation.
Paul, people were not chosen apostles because of esteem
for their gender.
The church gives two reasons for male-only priesthood. One, because the priest acts " in persona Christi" , and Jesus was a man,
and two, because Jesus commissioned men to the priesthood and not women. Sds
Paul, are you feeling okay? You've made two arguments here. One, that Jesus chose his apostles based on holding women in less esteem than men
I have given to two reasons the Church has an all male priesthood. These are the reasons she states openly. You have not dealt with them.
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